At the end of day, it’s up to the customer to decide whether a product will benefit them or not, but a review can help. I can say this is in part helped by the fact that the Stompernet guys sent out review copies, which is something many companies can learn from.

So I have actually used and read the product - and while it isn’t for everyone (what is?) those in this specific niche, that of search engine rankings, home business, and marketing, will benefit.

Thanks for the kind words. I repeat - all criticism is welcome, and I’d only ever delete comments which are not relevant, including of course any pornographic, racist, or other such remarks.

You dog, you have battled, and come to a “draw” with me. Many try, most lose, but you stood your ground and sat me down in my chair to re-examine my position. For that sir, you get a “Huzzah!”

Thank you for the discussion, it was very enlightening for me, and I hope others that are reading these comments will take into consideration that there must be something in this “Stomping” if even the harshest of critics are willing to give it a fair chance when those promoting it, are willing to sit back and allow for questions and concerns to be vetted fairly and justly.

I totally agree that there are a lot of scams out there, but at the end of the day this is an internet marketing blog, so that is what I post. I supply information on products and services that I think will help the readers here.

Of course the search engines are manipulated. And, to an extent, Google recognises. Hell, the Google Adwords / Adsense programs themselves are an extension of this. Anyone with a website will want their sites ranked high. Google itself faces a balancing act of pleasing it’s advertisers and pleasing it’s users. 99% of it’s income comes from advertising. Are the sites listed in the paid ads the best possible sites for the search term?

I stand by the fact I think Stomping The Search Engines is a good product. I’ll say right here that of course there are upsells, a paid subscription, and a delivery cost — but that’s why the product is essentially free. You don’t HAVE to take advantage of any of those. You can sign up, get the product, and ignore everything else that follows. Cancel the subscription right away if that’s what you want.

I don’t agree that this is an “SEO scam” in anyway. They’re pretty upfront about what they are offering. And their main product is actually a members site called Stompernet costing $800 a month. That’s big money by anyones standard. Yet the members stay, and are happy to pay that because of what they learn.

After all, if it costs you a small P&P charge and you end up learning something you didn’t already know and didn’t bother to find out yourself that ends up making you thousands - wouldn’t you be happy?

And on a final point: The authors of “Stomping” run very successful sites outside of the Internet Marketing niche. They’re not making their fortunes “peddling” courses on how to make fortunes, although there certainly is enough of that about.

Nope. Its not “free”… It is the same tired and worn out old grift. The “Shipping & Handling” scam. How many times do we see things for free, that include that magic shipping and handling of the universal $9.95? Many. It costs 10 bucks to ship? Nope, the postage will not reflect that when you get it in your hands. It cost 10 bucks to process? Nope. Where is the processing by putting a label and a stamp on a thin cardboard box or envelope? And the pennies that the envelope or cardboard box cost are just that, pennies when bought in bulk.

And you are right, everything can have this same application, no matter the magical “we have the secret” training DVD subject, the info is still available for free, folks just don’t want to do the work to compile it. And if they are not willing to do the basic work to even find out how to do it, then what makes anyone think that that their web presence is going to last very long, or posses any quality if they are not wanting to roll up them sleeves..?

I apologize if I sound like a buzzkill, but SEO scams are what we are all about at our website, so if I am to stay true to our purpose, then I need to speak my piece wherever I find the need to. I am sure that it did take a little bit of work to compile, but so does anything in life you want to be successful at.

Today’s search engines are full of junk because of all of the “we have the secret” peddlers, “Make Money Online” peddlers, ebay secrets, adsense secrets, and all of the other instant gratification scams out there. Look at Linkreferral, Entrecard, Blog Explosion, Blog Soldiers, Smiley Traffic, etc…. They are overflowing with MMO’s SEO’s MLM’s and so on… I know, I am members of them. They get traffic to you, but you have to wade through the fools while you are working to get hits sent to you.

All of the peddlers make their money the same way… Not by following their own advice to millions, but by selling their DVD’s, Ebooks, tapes, & books… Amway taught them all very well… And maybe one day, if they MLM real hard the big internet guru’s will hit the big time, and buy an infomercial on some offbeat tv channel at 3 am. LOL

Many hate me for being the naysayer in the market, but that is ok. Those are the folks that don’t like their grift being fiddled with, and those are the folks I want to hate me.

BTW… Thanx for not deleting my prior comment, most usually do. Very few want anything but what is being pitched, presented. Dissent is always contrary to the grifter’s wallet.

Secondly, people will - and always have - paid for information, whether it’s already free or not. People tend to pay for the convenience of having the information readily researched and to hand.

The argument “Why pay for knowledge that is free” can be put to almost any subject. You’re in reality paying for the research, presentation and compilation of existing materials.

That, and it’s a cool product

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